From: Bodie (mclarkc@essex.ac.uk)
Date: Tue Jul 09 2002 - 07:33:43 MDT
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Onikan wrote:
>
> Interesting. I couldn't read it all. I have to commend you that I could
> never write a post that long. I could write an theses that long or
> longer, but... you spent a lot of time on that post. Neat.
I generally tend to read a lot more about american politics than you might
think and it's not all from CNN and other media.
> Your punk ideologies are virulent in a negative sense. I am incredibly
> biased against punks, gays, lesbians, etc. but I don't hate them. I
> disagree with their practices but I don't hate them. Punk ideologies
> (i.e. anarchic ideologies) are a healthy part of American Government.
> They question themselves why is America like this? Why is this
> happening?
> A lot of people don't do that. But when will they question,
> "How does the American Government work in reality?" CNN and the other
> media distorts the truth. I can't give you a full description on how I
> know this because quite frankly that would waste a lot of our time. Gay
> and lesbians... that's their natural sexuality. As long as they aren't
> making a move on me, my composture around them will remain equal as it
> is with any of my other friends, which include skinheads, neo-nazis,
> mexican mafia, etc.
Wow, thats a lot of hate you have, why are you just focussing gays and
lesbians in peticular. I've heard people say this before like 'as long as
a gay doesn't fancy me he's ok' then 10 mins later I saw him trying to
kill someone for the heanous crime of thinking he's attractive. It's only
one step further to put a nailbomb in a gay pub as happened in london a
few years back. One of my friends was seriously injured in that
attack so if your friends with neo-nazis then you deserve to die as
much as they do. Your really are starting to make me want to vomit.
> I also find it quite interesting the individual groups in our nation
> express their hatred for certain "Americanisms." For example, the
> skinheads would like it if slavery wasn't abolished in the United
> States, but the punks are shouting, "Freedom for everyone!" The
> Neo-Nazis would just wish there was someone like Hitler who would take a
> stand against all religion and destroy them all. The Mexican Mafia would
> rather they get free beer, free women, and lots of cash. Then there's
> the American citizens and non-citizens who want lower taxes with more
> benefits. Just tell me how do you expect the government to comply with
> all of your wishes? If they can't please all groups, it's in their best
> interest to please themselves.
Well the neo-nazis are filled with hate and have no place in politics.
Yes everyone has demands, but the trick is to find out which of those
demands are fueled by hate, which are fueled by moneuy and which are
fueled by a genuine desire to make things better for everyone
> Once in awhile, I come across very intelligent members of the
> aforementioned groups. I won't state their names, but I will
> cite/summarize what they said:
>
> A female punk replicated the same story you made here down to the
> intricate details like the founding of a nation on the graves of
> Indians. (Mind you it was the English, the Spanish, and the French that
> kill all those Indians. English: John Smith. Spanish: Columbus. French:
> Who cares?)
>
> A tough skinhead told me that "in theory, if all ethnicities returned
> to their homelands, all would be well in White America."
No, if all ethnicities returned to their home countries you would be left
with the myans, the incas and the indians. Anyway, I gota head out so I
can't be bothered to reply to the rest of the mail
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