From: Ben (ben@machinegod.org)
Date: Tue Jul 09 2002 - 17:04:25 MDT
[Onikan]
I'm enthusiastic to inform you all that I have already won the debate on
whether or not America is the greatest place to live.
[ben]
I am equally pleased to inform you that you are apparently off your meds and
hallucinating. You have won nothing here; in fact you have yet to present an
effective argument of any kind.
[Onikan]
Millions and millions of people would rather live in America than in their
homeland.
[ben]
"Millions and millions" of uneducated and desperate refugees may not be the
best metric.
[Onikan]
Hundred-thousands if not millions of people enter the United States every
month.
[ben]
Actually, according to the INS in all of 200 (the latest year for which I
could find compiled stats online) there were 849,807 immigrants all year.
[Onikan]
More than half of the Federal Budget goes to welfare and the Department of
Health & Human Services is the most well-funded.
[ben]
Blatant lie or unbeleivable ignorance? You be the judge. Currently welfare
amounts to less than 1 percent of the US federal budget, and aid programs as
a whole are around 20%. Look it up if you don't believe me. Also, I'm pretty
sure the department of defense (AKA the department of WAR) is the best
funded agency. It certainly gets more money than all of the "caring for our
citizens" departments put together.
[Onikan]
A lot of people dislike America for some reasons, but in reality, they want
to and do live in this country.
[ben]
No, they don't. For one, I do not. Other people have expressed their lack of
a desire to do so in this very thread. It is the utmost arrogance to assume
that everyone wants to live in your country.
[Onikan]
And America has its share of problems, but a lot less problems than the rest
of the world.
[ben]
A lot less problems that _some_ of the rest of the world. But that too is
unfortunately changing.
-ben
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