From: Walpurgis (walpurg@myrealbox.com)
Date: Wed Jul 17 2002 - 06:06:19 MDT
On 17 Jul 2002 at 5:24, kharin wrote:
> I'm basing my assumptions on this area on what has happened in similar
> areas on the past. While Andreas Whittam Smith was still chair of the
> BBFC (i.e. head state censor) I used to read his column intermittently
> in order to be able to harangue him with emails expressing my
> unreserved disapproval of his office.
*L*
> "Why so?"
>
> I'm partly thinking of Wittgenstein's observation that the ineffable
> is that of which we cannot speak, but also that most of our mechanisms
> for describing experience relate to shared sensory data or formal
> methodologies; I'm not really sure of any terribly adequate mechanism
> for describing the noetic (presuming that neural scans are not quite
> pertinent in this context). Without any even crude mechanism for
> that description what we are faced with is as close to solipsism as
> makes little difference.
I see. This makes sense. However, the noetic can be expressed
using linguistic techniques like simile or metaphor and many forms
of artistic representation. After all, so much art is about this.
Langauge is useful, but not the only way to express experience.
> "It's all too easy either to dismiss drugs as thinly veiled
> justification for hedonistic indulgence, .... One likewise ignores
> the harsh fact that Western societies have lost the ability to
> address the religious feelings of a considerable segment of their
> youth."
>
> Justification for hedonistic indulgence has no need of being veiled at
> all in my opinion. Regarding the tragic loss of religious feeling my
> heart is bleeding. I weep for the world.
Agreed.
Give me pleasure over religion anyday.
W
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