From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jul 25 2002 - 15:48:37 MDT
...have you looked into the evidence suggesting that queen victoria might
have been a man? no, im not joking.
drsebby.
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From: "kharin" <hidden@lucifer.com>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re:virus: Gender and Nature in Contemporary NeoPaganism
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 02:49:57 -0600
"The misplacement of semen was not possible in lesbian encounters,"
You don't think that Aquinas was entertaining the same view on that issue
that Queen Victoria did? I rather suspect we are speaking of an omerta on
that subject rather than an exemption. The basic gist of Aquinan philosophy
in this area is that non-generative sex was unnatural; that would certainly
apply to lesbianism even if no explicit comment was made on the issue.
Particularly given that Eve's actions had (to Aquinas) rendered woman a
flawed value whose existence was only made other than a mistake by virtue of
the fact that there was no other route to perpetuate the natural order.
"then the only reason that male homosexual relations could
be more offensive than, say, masturbation or withdrawal (onanism, after
Onan, who spilled his seed on the ground) would have to be the
conspiritorial/consensual nature of the act, requiring two people."
Exactly; the opprobrium on that issue related to a wider 'ethics of
repression' (which in turn relates to the model of relations between man and
god being essentially that of feudal servitude).
Incidentallt, I do hope this quibbling on my part has not created the
impression that I am anything other than in general agreement with the
principles of your original essay and generally consider it a fine piece of
work.
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