From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu Jul 25 2002 - 16:15:59 MDT
On 25 Jul 2002 at 23:26, Dr Sebby wrote:
> ...without even messing with the niceities of postmodernism, i can say quite
> easily that the notion of "tu quoque" makes a very fine branding iron for
> stupid people. this ridiculously useless exercise in mental masturbation is
> an elaborate form of a similar notion i heard many years ago..it went
> something like, "i know you are, but what am i?"...followed in time by, "im
> rubber, your glue...". not surprisingly these tools of the stupid have
> 'subjectively' saved face for many an imbecile the world over, whom without
> such a readily available force-field of "dumbness", would have been entirely
> defenseless.
>
> ...so it is not surprising that in the early teenage years, this format once
> again arose to defend the ill-equipped. it often seemed to coincide with
> religious 'would-be' scientists who might utter something like, "well, how
> do you know that's really real?" ad infinitum. at some final point i
> suppose you were supposed to start questioning if your thoughts on
> questioning your thoughts was 'real'. this is such a moronic line of
> reasoning that i'm not even going to address it.
>
> ...regardless, this whole notion of, "well, i cant intellectually defend
> myself, so i'll attack his very words by questioning the very letters
> themselves which make up his sentence" is a pretty pitiful one and should be
> left to those both limited to and fascinated by such simplistic examples of
> funkiness in our existence.
>
The point is that the statements mentioned (such as "everything is
relative", "all experience is simulation" and the like) are, due to the
Godelian infinite regress undecideabilioty quandaries encountered
when it is realized that they must a forteriori apply to (and deny)
themselves, bereft of any possibility of assignation of any truth-value in
the Popperian sense, although they purport to make positive universal
statements concerning the empirical realm; they are therefore
meaningless.
>
> DrSebby.
> "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
>
>
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