From: Hermit (hidden@lucifer.com)
Date: Tue Jul 30 2002 - 13:09:48 MDT
[Joe Dees]
I was simply attempting to return this list to one of its primary functions: the analysis/categorization of various belieph systems. This of course requires the membership to be able to view the foundational documents of these systems. Of particular interest seems to be the cutting edge magickal discipline extant, the Chaos Magickal system, since they seem to view the provisional adoption of belief as a tool by means of which to, by the technique of imprinting, accomplish preselected purposes consonant with the selected belief in question, to be discarded one the purpose is attempted or achieved, much as has been advocated by published authors in the field of memetics (cf. Richard Brodie's level 3). If instead, this list, under the influence of certain infected and vociferous posters, has itself been captivated in a memetic thrall and as a result has morphed into a dogmatic antigovernment screed list regarding any and all current and recent events, of course, this (and any other memetically inspired endea
vors) are of course futile and destined to ignominious failure. If such is indeed the case, please advise.
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[Hermit]
1) You didn't mention this before. Was there a reason for not mentioning it perhaps? Certainly I had disposed of the copies that arrived from the mail list as they arrived. I strongly suspect I was not alone in this.
2) Was there a reason for not simply making a single post containing the URLs, rather than posting reams of badly formatted text, without reference to the sources?
3) When did you determine that the "analysis/categorization of various belieph systems" was a primary function of the CoV? I notice that our primary functions are described at http://virus.lucifer.com/about.html in the following fashion:
Virus is ...
[*] a forum for rational discourse
[*] a memetically engineered atheistic religion
[*] a synthesis of religion and evolution
[*] the best possible conceptual framework for living and thinking
[*] a neo-cybernetic philosophy for the 21st century
[*] Darwin's dangerous idea out of control
[*] an extended phenotype of the Virion Council
4) While I have seen a veritable barrage of cut and pasted articles, principally since 911 (largely from you), decrying Islam, I have not seen anything which I would have identified as "analysis/categorization." Neither do I recall you mentioning this before in all the years that either of us has been on the list. If this is "a primary function" why hasn't anybody noticed how poorly we are doing at it?
5) I would suggest that in the same way as Christian Apologetics are not welcomed on the mail list, so too, apologetics for other religions are not welcomed. Particularly when they appear not to have been written for the CoV but simply comprise a large number of articles, at least some of which have been identified (by other members) not just as misleading, but even "Bullshit."
6) Meanwhile, we do have a BBS, http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs , carefully categorized to permit the congregation and visitors to read articles they may be interested in, and where you are able to make such posts, in the same way as anyone else on the list, but where it will not flood the mailboxes of those who have no interest in such matters.
7) Those interested may still view the documents in question on-line via the BBS. I look forward to seeing you reference the documents in your analysis. Having seen the material you intend to reference, when do we anticipate seeing your article on the list?
8) You seem to have left a lot of threads hanging elsewhere. Do you intend to reply to any of the questions posed or points made, or have you been persuaded that your previous positions were indeed unreasonable or indefensible? Certainly, until you reply, it might seem rather silly of you to continue making posts on these issues - at least, I recall you suggesting that this was the case for others.
Regards
Hermit
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