From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue Jul 30 2002 - 14:11:45 MDT
On 30 Jul 2002 at 13:21, Hermit wrote:
>
> [Joe Dees] If we cannot situate ourselves somewhere within the spectrum
of logical, rational discourse concerning issues we nevertheless feel
passionately about (and that emotional component itself should ring a
plethora of bells), then we are no more than savage apes, beating our
linguistic chests, protecting and defending our memetically infested
ideological and personally meaningful and dear symbolic and
informational turf, and sadly and blatantly demonstrating our animalistic
natures.
>
> [Hermit] False dichotomies, excluded middles? Consider that since 911
the issue of emotional componentry has appeared to many to apply to
the
majority of your posts. Consider asking Jake to teach you how to slap
your
forehead. Something certainly appears to need resetting.
>
Tu quoque. Most of my recent posts on Islam have been comprised of
cross-posted articles, some written by luminaries such as Anthony
Flew, Richard Dawkins and Lionel Tiger. I have posted them without
comment.
>
> [Joe Dees] The tired, jaded game of considering oneself a member of the
> cognoscenti if one is in opposition to a generally accepted position, and
> considering those who do not agree with you when you unholster
> volumes of nonobjective and contrary marginally-sourced-and-accessed
> vitriol to be unenlightened and uninformed, is a common net fallacy
> easily detectable within the phenomenology of the extremist.
>
> [Hermit] Appeals to the masses? Slurs? Unvalidated assertions?
Perhaps you would like to reply to the threads you have left dangling,
and
support your assertions. Consider the fact that the population of the US
comprises only some 5% of the world - what is the "generally accepted
position here? To quote yourself, "Denial is not just a river in Egypt."
>
It is a little-boy game to believe that one must rise in rebellious
opposition to majority opinion, whether it is correct or un-, in order to
assert that one is a member of the intelligentsia. Most of the world is
currently aiding in our pursuit of Al Quaeda, and those who are not are
the same religio-memetically infested ignoranti who danced in the
streets when they heard of the 9/11 attacks.
>
> [Joe Dees] Quantity has never and never will be consonant with quality,
or any semblance of veracity.
>
> [Hermit] Agreed, but are you suggesting that A->B also means B->A?
Hmmm, should we then ignore all your longer works?
>
Mine are not cut-and-paste pastiches of other people's prejudiced
bloviations interspersed with arch snide sneering asides. They are
original works.
>
> [Hermit] Non sequiturs?
>
> [Joe Dees] Netsearching for those anti and alternative sources that
support one, and discarding the bulk of those that don't, does nothing to
enhance one's credibility. It is nevertheless less than a scintilla of
paranoia and suspicion between the positions exhibited by many of the
posters here and the miasma of scatflinger's contemporary right-wing
(or left-wing neosocialist - in an ideological circle, they meet at the
extreme margins, as demonstrated by Karl Hess, a Nixon speechwriter
and tax resister, in his book DEAR AMERICA) neonazi superstitions.
>
> [Hermit] Confusion? Ad Hominem?
>
> [Hermit] How are the mighty fallen.
>
Don't worry, Hermit; you can (with effort) do a Jesus, and rise again to
some semblance of objectivity.
>
> Regards
>
> Hermit
>
>
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