From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri Aug 02 2002 - 18:43:48 MDT
On 2 Aug 2002 at 16:37, Hermit wrote:
>
> [Joe Dees] We would help the people to elect their own leaders for a
> change, as we did in Afghanistan.
>
> [Hermit] Excuse me, I think I missed that. When were these elections
> held, and how did America (whose forces are still largely holed up in
> Kabul) help with them?
>
We have helped them through facilitating a Loya Jirga comprised of
representatives of all the tribal factions (chosen by the factions
themselves) which itself chose a transition government the stated goal
of which is participatory democracy.
>
> [Joe Dees] There are TWO major threats in the region: a rabidly
> radical Islamic Al Quaeda and a fascist Saddam Hussein. It ain't
> either/or; it's both/and. Both constitute clear and extremely real
> threats, if their words and past actions are to be believed.
>
> [Hermit] Pardon me, but didn't you forget Israel? Or are they not in
> the region? Oh, and the United States. Whose words and past actions
> also seem to indicate that they are a threat to the perople of the
> Middle East. So shouldn't that have been "FOUR major threats in the
> region"?
>
Do you mistake a red suit for a fire when a fireman enters the room?
You are doing so vis-a-vis the US. As for Israel, I believe that
Johnathan properly described their present conflict as a situation where
suicide attacks were being launched from Palestinian areas by zealots
(Hamas translates as "Zeal") whose only care for the dead civilians on
either side is their propaganda value.
>
> Hermit
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