From: Hermit (hidden@lucifer.com)
Date: Fri Aug 02 2002 - 19:47:55 MDT
[Joe Dees 2] That is a time-honored solution for the religion; twenty-two out of twenty-four global conflicts presently happening on the globe have, as their participants on one or both sides, Islamic regimes. And guess why? Because the religion is a fascist, world-conquering one, began by a murderous mercernary.
[Hermit 3] Much the same can be said about Christianity. Have you read the "War Scroll"? How about, "Bring all those who would not have me reign over them and kill them before me" ["Jesus"] (cited from memory, so excuse any errors). Remember, this was used for centuries by the Church as a reason for executing "heretics and infidels." Just as other passages were used for centuries to justify slavery. Yet how many Christians argue today that slavery is justified by the babble and should be restored? All classical religious works are so contradictory that they are effectively meaningless - this goes for the JudeoChristian works as much as for the Islamic. So Nurgle is right. While all religions are harmful, the measure of harm is iun how it is interpretted, not in what it says.
[Joe Dees 4] Interpretation of the Qu'Ran (literally, the Recitation)as any kind of a metaphor, simily or allegory is an Islamic apostasy. Having allegedly been transmitted directly from the lips of Allah's angelic messenger to the ears of Mohammed, it is considered by all nonapostate Muslims as infallible and literally true.
[Hermit 5] And are the baptists any different? Yet there is no doubt that for the majority of those who identify themselves as Christians today, their interpretation is dramatically different from what it was, say 200 years ago. Of course, there are anomolies. Refer e.g. "Children of a White God: A Study of Racist “Christian” Theologies", The Human Nature Review 2001 Volume 1: 1-27, 23 October 2001 (http://human-nature.com/nibbs/01/ogilvie.html). THis article also compares radical Christianity with radical Islam.
[Hermit 5] You miss the point that just as there are many Christians who don't particularly want to attack anyone, there are large numbers of Muslim who feel the same way. But in the case of the Muslim, you look at the fanatic and say "typical" while in the case of the Christian, you say exception. It just makes you look silly.
[Joe Dees 4] The christian horrors to which you dearly love to refer, the Crusades and the Inquisition chief among them, happened hundreds of years ago, during the Christian Dark Ages, before Christianity, over the course of centuries, modified under the pressures of the Enlightenment and modernity. The problem we are faced with is that Islam's Dark Ages are occurring as we speak, and contemporary weapons are light-years more massively lethal.
[Hermit 5] If you imagine that I "dearly love to refer" to any horrors, you are wrong. If you imagine I am unaware of moder weapon systems, you are wrong. Seeing as you choose to raise the subject, the Christians have done a massively good job of slaughtering, cheating and impoverishing Muslims for centuries. Perhaps in the last 100 years it hasn't ostensibly been for religious reasons on the Christians part, but I can't find it irrational of the Muslim to think otherwise.
[Joe Dees 4] You probably also agree with the Blood Libel.
[Hermit 5] You really are deteriorating, aren't you Joe? If you next call me a Nazi, I'm going to invoke Godwin's Law.
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