From: ben (ben@machinegod.org)
Date: Fri Aug 02 2002 - 21:16:08 MDT
> > > [Joe 1]
> > > And those who empathize with dead terrorists most likely
> > > empathized with them when they were alive; that is a wash, or a net
> > > negative, since dead terrorists reduce the total.
> > >
> > > [ben 2]
> > > sigh... so now every non-US casualty in Afghanistan was a terrorist?
> > > Should we start murdering brown people onsight Joe?
> > >
> > [Joe 3]Nope, not every one, but there were many less non-terrorist
> > deaths than the 9/112800, and their deaths, unlike thedeaths of the
> > civilian citizens in the Twin Towers, were accidental and unintended.
> > Or does it take a Venn Diagram to illustrate that popint for you?
> >
> > [ben 4]
> >
> > No diagram required, and I never have question the balance of the dead
> > or the intentions that killed them. However, again you are responding
> > to some imagined statement on my part and avoiding the real issue. You
> > are claiming that all the non-US dead in Afghanistan were terrorists.
> >
[Joe 5] This, considering the above cut and pasted statement from me, in the
> very email you responded to, is a bald faced lie.
[ben 6]
Check the archives. Concern was expressed for the Afghani dead, you
responded with what is in [Joe 1] above. Your response assumes that concern
for Afghani dead would only be experienced by those who empathize with dead
terrorists. Ergo, the obvious underlying assumption on your part is that all
the dead Afghanis specifically are terrorists. We know that this has not
(and won't) be proven, therefore you are suggesting that all Afghanis are
terrorists.
[ben 4] I call, in your own words, bullus shittus on that assertion and
hereby
> > give you the opportunity to either retract or explain. Or at least to
> > reply with an addendum that explains your feelings for those who
> > empathize not for dead terrorists but for needlessly murdered
> > civilians... OF ANY NATION.
> >
[Joe 5] I do the same, and unlike you, WITH OBVIOUS REASON. You are
> either blind or uncomprehending of simple english to lie DIRECTLY
> AFTER the statement that proves your lie is a lie. RETRACT OR
> EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[ben 6] Explained, although I didn't expect it to be neccessary. I will
choose to not be offended by your accusation as it seems to be prompted by
panic and despair as opposed to malice. You seem to conveniently forget
where the conversation was every time you can't defend your position. Now
can we get back to the simple request made in [ben 4] please??
-ben
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