From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat Aug 03 2002 - 14:54:56 MDT
On 3 Aug 2002 at 14:05, Hermit wrote:
>
> [ben] Also, it is not surprising to see that many more Palestinians
> were killed and injured when one takes into account the readiness with
> which they kill themselves and each other.
>
> [Hermit] Can you support this, in other words, what percentages of
> these totals do you think were "own goals"?
>
Suspected collaborators are killed with alarming frequency, on mere
suspicion, in an ongoing internal Palestinian witch hunt.
>
> [Hermit] Once we have that information, we can determine whether the
> assumptions underlying the balance of this discussion are correct or
> whether it is, as I suspect, founded on unstated and invalid
> assumptions.
>
Your suspicions are as easy to predict as a knee hit by a hammer. You
mentioned some time ago that you had,or have, Muslim friends. How
virulent is their ideology, how long were or have you been exposed to it,
and to what degree do you suppose you were memetically infected by
it?
>
> [Hermit] Even if your assumptions were correct, and I don't think that
> they are, consider what it would take to get you to the point you are
> asserting is held by the Palestinians. What would it take to get you
> to applaud one of your children committing suicide? What would it take
> to get you to kill one of your relatives? Would it not be easier for
> you to applaud one of your children attempting to kill an enemy, or to
> do so yourself, before being killed in turn?
>
Islamic fanaticism and a promise of 50 grand helps.
>
> [Hermit] If you can't consider the Palestinian/Israeli situation
> disspassionately, consider historical precedents for the situation.
> What were the historic motivations for the people in similar
> situations?
>
Since you cannot consider the issue dispassionately, perhaps this is a
job for you.
As for your wild and hysterical claims of bigotry, I wish to note that the
definition of prejudice is judgement before or in the absence of due
consideration, and I have considered the virulent aspects of Islam and
the Qu'ran, both theoretically and historically, for years. I might also
note that since many different racial and ethnic groups have Muslim
members, the accusation of bigotry, being at its heart a racial one, is
both nonsensical and absurd. You are beginning to sound like the
Nurgler; another ultraliberal who, when his position is revealed as
paraplegic (lacking legs to stand on) flees to the scoundrellish final
refuge of such people - accustions that those who disagree with them
are racist bigots.
For those who are interested, my political position is as follows: I am a
fiscal conservative, a social liberal, and an international realist.
>
> Regards
>
> Hermit
>
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