From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun Aug 04 2002 - 19:51:52 MDT
On 4 Aug 2002 at 18:22, Hermit wrote:
>
> 1 Operation defensive Shield dummy. If we can pick and choose
> individual engagements, then we can make the numbers say anything we
> want. Why, pick the right location and time and you can prove that no
> Palestinians died at all. Which is why the UN reported confirmed
> deaths over the operation - as did I.
>
It was the Palestinians who picked the propaganda venue; they were
the ones screaming Jenin Massacre. It turned out not to be true.
>
> 2 The Palestinians were very lucky. Imagine if there had only been one
> or two soldiers caught in their ambush (as should have happened) -
> Israel would have taken half the number of casualties she did. You
> make my points for me.
>
But thirteen were caught in their ambush, which made it a very skillful
ambush. Reality intervenes and contradicts your dogma.
>
> 3 The Israelis flattened over a square kilometer and damaged the rest.
> There were 200 "terrorists" involved. Yet nearly a thousand buildings
> were demolished. So if every building demolished housed "terrorists"
> then we are discussing "terrorists" which were able to be in five
> places at once.
>
No, just over the course of many days. They didn't stay in one place all
that time like knots on logs. They moved from building to building as
they fired; that's what 'house to house' warfare is all about.
>
> 4a When a uniformed Palestinian defends his people from attack by
> Israeli soldiers then he is not a "terrorist," no matter what the
> American press calls him.
>
Whatever his uniform, if he is defending bomb factories and those who
employ them, he becomes one with those he defends.
>
> 4b Unless Israel has gone steeply downhill since 1996, they have live
> feeds from 1m resolution satellites, 3cm resolution high altitude
> aircraft and effectively infinite resolution from RPVs deployable over
> all of Israel and the occupied territories - including slant views
> reaching 200 km into all her neighbors' territories. In addition, most
> of the borders have seismic monitoring lines and listening posts. They
> also have hot-standby ground attack aircraft that can reach any of
> these locations in minutes. So what you are saying that some senior
> officers in the IDF are guilty of treason - because that is the only
> way in which "unauthorised training" could occur without the IDF being
> aware of, and responding to it.
>
Training was authorized under existing accords for a 50,000 person
Palestinian police force. Terrorist moonlighting is endemic. It is difficult
to detect terrorist training occurring indoors. Also, Israel has been wary
of launching an incursion int Gaza, as that would involve some very
tricky urban warfare in highly populated areas.
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