From: Mark Collins (me@thisisnurgle.org.uk)
Date: Tue Aug 06 2002 - 18:31:57 MDT
On Wednesday 07 August 2002 12:44 am, you wrote:
> The overwhelming Taliban that were not Afghani Pashtuns were
> Pakistani Pashtuns or Uzbeks; the overwhelming preponderence of Al
> Quaeda captured and killed are from either Saudi Arabia or Egypt
> (where Wahhabism has also been exported, and where Zawahiri, Bin
> Laden's mentor, theoretician, and second in command, hails from
> (Egypt has sentenced him to death in absentia in the assassination of
> the late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, who had the nerve to sign a
> peace treaty with Israel)). The fact that one can pick a couple of
> nomadic rogues from a population of several thousand does not change
> the massive predominances.
Massive predonimances are irrelevent. You have failed to address my point.
The Taliban, and probably Al Queda, have recieved support from citizens from
non-Muslim countries who are allies with the US.
Do not condemn the state for the actions of the individual.
> > > the Taliban, and in addition, have funded the religious-extremist-
> >
> > The US put the Taliban in power. Your point?
>
> Actually, the US funded a fundamentalist resistance to the Soviet
> iccupation of Afghanistan, but we and the Soviets both left years before
> the Taliban began; they received their military support from the
> Pakistani ISI (their secret service).
The US supplied arms and training to fight the Soviets. These arms and
training were used to overthrow the Communist ruling parties (the Northern
block is mainly Commie) and put the Taliban in power.
Explain to me how the US isn't responsible this whole mess?
> > Scientologists have a "fair-game" policy where they use any means
> > nessecary to prevent anyone spreading the truth about he "religion".
> > Scientology is a violent religion. The lasrgest concentration of
> > Scientologists exists in Hollywood. NUKE HOLLYWOOD!
>
> There's a lot of them in Clearwater, Florida, too, but their preferred
> weapon is the civil suit, not the gun or the bomb, so they are more
> easily countered, when they violate peoples' civil rights, but losing in
> court, which they have done a lot of lately. I do want to note that
Near Hemit, CA, there is a compound known as Gold Base which has a heavilly
armed contigent of guards. Anyone trying to leave this compound is hunted
down like dogs. Deep inside the compound is a sniper on watch 24/7 just
incase the guards miss. There are court documents, which havn't been
countered, stating this. Do a search, it was a pretty famous case, and
there's prolly a link on xenu.net
Near Gold Base there is another compound called Happy Valley which is
basically a re-education center for Scientologists who have lost their faith.
They are prisoners. There is plenty of evidence supporting this out there,
including the afore mentioned court documents and testimonies.
How is that different from an Al Queda training camp? Oh yeah, they have
shitloads of money, they have "respected" Hollywood actors as high profile
members, and they put of lot of business in the direction of hte US "Justice"
system.
It's not who you kill, it's who you bribe.
The US should think about the mirrors of the problems it condemns outside its
borders which exist inside its borders before taking any military actions
which destroys another nation. It's pure hipocracy.
> Scientology is banned in germany as a pernicious cult, even though
> that is where Mohammed Atta, the alleged immediate leader of the 9/11
> plotters, went to school, and recruited several of the 9/11 terror flyers.
Oh goody, a completely misinformed statement. Scientology is NOT banned in
Germany. The reason this myth came about was because a document was leaked
from inside the Sea Org which contained plans to infiltrate the German
government and take power.
The German response was to add a law which means any Scientologist serving in
public office must make their affiliations known.
-- === Mark 'Nurgle' Collins http://www.thisisnurgle.org.uk Stupid IRC quote of the <variable time period>: <phoenix> insider, you'll have to excuse nurgle, he's the epitamy of evil
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