From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue Aug 06 2002 - 19:18:11 MDT
On 6 Aug 2002 at 18:43, Nurgle wrote:
>
> [quote from: Joe on 2002-08-06 at 18:37:20]
> This fact, in their own words, counters the contention that their main
> motivation is nationalistic, geographic or sociocultural, rather than
> religious. Of course, one has to remember that, in the Quran, all
> nations, lands and societies/cultures are subsumed under the global
> Ummah of Islam in submission to Allah.
>
>
> And how many US soldiers believe they are doing Gods work when they go
> to war for Bush? The Pledge of alliegence did contain "One nation,
> under God" when most of them signed up, didn't it?
>
It has contained that phrase since the McCarthy anti-godless-communist
phase, in 1954, so I doubt if there are many active military who joined
before then. But if you had ever been in the military, you would know that
the military pledge one takes to swear in and join a US military service is
not the Pledge of Allegiance.
Having been one, which you most obviously haven't, I can honestly tell
you - very few US citizens, outside the chaplaincy, join the military with
the intention of doing God's work; if they were inclined that way, they
would join their church denomination's missionary organization. Not only
are there a lot of different religions in the US military, and many who
follow none, but most US soldiers are fighting for either a nation (the US)
or a paycheck, and although very few would betray their government for a
bribe, they think more about getting better at their jobs, getting promoted,
and being able to give themselves and their families more as a result,
rather than the patriotism aspects, which run heartfellt and deep, but are
not usually 'worn on the public sleeve'. It is a career, and the ones who
choose to stay in that career and make a life of it rather than getting out
and going to college, as I did, are proud of how good they are at it, like
most people are concerning whatever career they choose.
>
> A soldier from any organisation will believe they are doing a gods
> work if they believe in that particular diety.
>
In the US, the emphasis has traditionally been placed upon fighting for
one's freedom and the freedom of one's countrymen, family and friends,
and for the preservation of the system of government that majes these
freedoms possible.
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