From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Thu Aug 15 2002 - 06:17:08 MDT
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From: "Hermit" <hidden@lucifer.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Re:virus: Combined post to Casey and Jonathan Davis.
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> [Jonathan Davis 1] This forum is overrun with apologists for our street
dancing ululating Palestinian terror supporters and their ilk.
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> [Hermit 5] Supporting terrorists by dancing and ululating?
>
> [Jonathan Davis 8] Err...no. Read it again. There are people who are
apologists for terrorist supporters and their ilk, some of whom dance in the
streets and ululate [to celebrate terrorist attacks].
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> [Hermit 5] Who exactly does dancing harm? What about ululating (as long as
I don't have to listen to it)? Are you arguing that this constitutes a crime
against anything but good taste? Is this how you justify the call to "Kill
them all! God will know his own."
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> [Jonathan Davis 8] I submit this as a strong candidate for the Straw Man
of the year award.
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> [Hermit 9] Your submission is rejected with the contempt it deserves.
Ooooh! A flounce!
>Your argument above is not against terrorists
It is not an argument. It was a statement. The statement was that this forum
has apologists for terrorist supporters and their ilk, some of whom dance in
the streets and ululate [to celebrate terrorist attacks]. Now go off and
learn how to spot an argument.
> - it is against people who are apologists for those speaking in favour of
terrorism (Palestinian terror supporters and their ilk). Unless you wish to
argue that >freedom of speech should be limited, this argument fails.
You are hopelessly confused. There was no argument. Beat that Straw Man,
Hermit, beat him good!
>So far you have provided nothing in support of such an argument.
Thwack! The straw man takes another huge blow.
>Your phrasing is such that you condemn a nation on the grounds that they
are supporters of terrorists, and then imply that apologists for them are
also supporters >of terrorists.
Pow! The Straw man is suffering now.
>Your equations don't balance. Go buy some logic
<snigger>Is this how you get your logic Hermit?</snigger>
>or take a writing course to learn to write what you mean.
So you think I write badly? Damn. Me was finking that I is getting gooder.
This blo is like a steak through the hart.
>I also note that you cannot get into a discussion without immediate
recourse to ad hominem.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! This is rich. YOU are telling ME that I use ad hominems!
Classic.
> Perhaps you should retract your earlier comments on its use or I will
consider you as great a hypocrite as those you purport to defend.
I retract nothing. As for what you think of me, let me quote Shakespeare:
"Speak then to me, who neither beg nor fear
Your favours nor your hate."
Macbeth, Act 1 Scene III.
> [Blunderov 2] <Quotes from Red Meat>
> [Mailman0] "You see, when you are crushing a man's windpipe with your
knee, you may be sure he will attempt to bite you"
> [Milkman Dan1] "Yes I've noticed that."
>
> [joedees 3] You see, when a man repeatedly kicks you in the gonads, you
will hold him down any way you can manage to get him to stop.
>
> [Blunderov 4] Yes I've noticed that.
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> [Hermit 5] So Joe, are you now suggesting that we stop targeting Iraq?
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> [Jonathan Davis 8] Oh look, a leap of logic that has carried the leaper
into the abyss of absurdity. : )
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> [Hermit 9] I piss on your little smileys
I fistfuck your weak insults.
>- they evidently don't do anything to improve your thinking.
Nor your uncouthness.
> [Hermit 9] Not a leap, but a simple analog step.
Simple, yes. That it though.
>The fact you cannot follow it should concern you.
it does
>The US has been attacking Iraq near continuously for a decade.
Indeed. More power to them.
>Kharma and history both suggest that this will
Kharma? How the might have fallen.
>not last forever without somebody responding in a way that we will not
enjoy.
You are right about it not lasting forever. Saddam will soon be gone.
Regards
Jonathan
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