From: Blunderov (squooker@mweb.co.za)
Date: Wed Aug 28 2002 - 12:06:00 MDT
Jonathan Davis [jonathan.davis@lineone.net] wrote
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Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed immaturity.
Immaturity is the inability to use one's understanding without guidance
from another. This immaturity is self-imposed when its cause lies not in
lack of understanding, but in lack of resolve and courage to use it
without guidance from another. Dare to know!* "Have courage to use your
own understanding!"--that is the motto of enlightenment. - Kant
* Sapere Aude!
http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html
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> joedees@bellsouth.net Wed 2002/08/28 10:26 AM
> <snip>
> Perhaps what really
> upsets these types is the fact that the argument for the positions
> opposing theirs is so strong that there are a plethora of resources to
> back them up. <snap>
>
> [Blunderov0]
> I enjoy what Hermit writes and thinks. He has something to say. Much
> of what JoeDees has posted is just regurgitation ad nauseum, somebody
> else's predigested opinion. Philibustering is anti-social. Boo hiss.
>
[Jonathan Davis1] [jonathan.davis@lineone.net] Wed 2002/08/28 03:12 PM
wrote:
<snip.
Dare to know!* Sapere Aude!
<snap>
[Blunderov0]
This can also be translated as "Dare to be wise".
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"A Thanksgiving Prayer"
(For John Dillinger and hope that he is still alive.)
Thanksgiving Day November 28 1986.
Thanks for the Wild Turkey and the Passenger Pigeon,
Destined to be shat through wholesome American guts,
Thanks for a continent to despoil and poison,
Thanks for Indians to provide a modicum of challenge and danger,
Thanks for vast herds of Bison to kill and skin leaving the carcases to
rot,
Thanks for bounties on Wolves and Coyotes,
Thanks for the American Dream to vulgarise and falsify until the bare
lie shines through,
Thanks for the KKK, for Nigger killing lawmen eating their notches,
For decent churchgoing women with their mean, pinched, bitter, evil
faces,
Thanks for "Kill a Queer for Christ" stickers,
Thanks for laboratory AIDS,
Thanks for Prohibition and the War Against Drugs,
Thanks for a country where nobody is allowed to mind his own business,
Thanks for a nation of finks.
Yes, thanks for all the memories, alright lets see your arms,
You always were a headache and you always were a bore -
Thanks for the last and the greatest betrayal of the last and the
greatest of human dreams.
William S. Burroughs "Dead City Radio" (1990 Island Records, Inc.
422-846 264-2)
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[Blunderov0]
(Burroughs probably didn't know that every year, on average, every
American consumes the produce of 9, 7 hectares of mixed farmland and
shallow sea. If every person on Earth were to do the same we would
require an additional four Earths.)
It is not clear to me that America (I mean this in a general sense,
present company mostly excluded) has any claims to a monopoly, or
indeed, any claims whatsoever, on either wisdom or morality.
The projected war on Iraq has no legal or moral justification. To argue
that it is simply necessary anyway is nothing less than fascist. Sapere
Aude yourself!
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