From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun Sep 08 2002 - 17:02:37 MDT
On 6 Sep 2002 at 13:53, les42@oneimage-vpo.iccx.net wrote:
> It has been stated as fact that the US are the world cops
> and (I cant remember because it is Friday afternoon and the
> brew pub had some fine ales on this sunny day) that the
> U.N. is the world court. That is the argument herein:
>
> If we model ourselves after the cops in this town, then we
> cannot do anything until someone has committed a crime.
> That is the cop's prime directive. This memeplex has
> existed for many years. Cops can't go bust heads until they
> have ample proof and a warrant from the judge. Otherwise,
> it is not constitutional.
>
> 'Tis true that the guy in the Iraqi blue hat (Nostradamus
> vision, wasn't it?) has committed past crimes and the
> punishment doled out was sanctions and whatnot. He stole
> from his neighbors and was put back with hundreds of
> thousand dead. He killed his own and sanctions were
> imposed. The World court (the U.N.) has decided!
>
> Maybe in our death penalty society (of which I think we
> should have electric bleachers), we consider THAT
> punishment inadequate. I don't think it was enough. It
> doesn't matter, that was the sentence imposed by the World
> court (the U.N.)...
>
> However, Saddam needs to be put back under surveillance. If
> he won't allow it, the World court needs to decide what to
> do. Not the chief of police (aka, shrub)...
>
> How can we expect other countries to follow the model of
> our constitution if we can go around it willy-nilly? The
> "U.S. constitutional" democracy meme will not propagate
> very well and we will look like bullies (a bad meme which
> is responsible for most of the worlds troubles, IMO).
>
> Aside: the big-ticket item in the news is kidnapping and
> murder of children. It sucks that little kids are raped and
> murdered by known child abusers. Why aren't these losers
> be-headed before they lure another one in? It's not our
> way...
>
> We AINT in the Wild West, NO lynchin's allowed. So go ride
> off into the sunset (yeah, I know, the NY mushroom cloud
> will resemble the sun in many ways)...
>
> We have to be above the animal with our civilized, perhaps
> more robust memeplex. If the animal destroys us, then maybe
> we were not worthy, and our memeplex sucked...
>
I prefer survival of the most civilized to survival of the most brutal. I
cannot see how being civilized requires us to be suicidal, or to take no
pre-emptive action in the face of arming with homicidal intent. The
memeplex that would insist upon such absurdities indeed does suck.
Iraq is already in violation of sixteen UN mandates, so they've violated
their parole for past offenses, and it's time for the policeman to
apprehend them. And when psychologists assert that ceertain
prisoners cannot be trusted to re-enter society because it is highly likely
that they'll violently or sexually offend again, they may be kept
incarcerated for the protection of the public at large; this is known as
the doctrine of future dangerousness.
>
> ta...
> Les
>
>
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