From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep 21 2002 - 14:59:43 MDT
[Joe Dees]
it is quite simple; if you are against the proposition of the US defending
herself by pre-emption, which is the only available effective means in a
post-9/11 world where transnational terrorist organizations avail themselves
of WMD's, then you are anti-american, or at least anti-americans, for you
are opposing the US taking the only effective means available by means of
which to protect her citizens from harm, which is tantamount to advocating,
by default, that they be exposed to increased risks of harm.
...Joe, take a look at this post of yours above. these are the words of
undiluted certainty regarding an issue which you fucking well know you dont
hold the answers to, nor the access to the information which might give them
to you. this paragraph of yours quite literally sounds like something
penned by a blindered fanatic that has ceased thinking and is running on
pure emotion. if we had leaders that were able to say such things and act
alone, we'd be back in the damned dark ages - as soon as you start mistaking
your guesses and opinions for absolute fact, you have strayed into the arena
of nonsense and irrationality. oh and as far as your misplaced love of the
nation-state still called the US of America...tell me this: who has more
power/influence; coca-cola or half the worlds 3rd world nations? you are
living in an archaic reality of the mind - one filled with romantic notions
of solidarity, unity, cohesiveness, justice and service and all the rest of
the crap which pretty much went out the door with the 50's and beaver
cleaver. do you suppose for an instant that any of your beloved nation
state's leaders give a shit about you? do you suppose they are doing
anything besides looking after their own family dynasty's success and those
of their friends? wake up dude. as thomas jefferson said, "if you think
you can have a free democratic society without an educated public, you are
sorely mistaken" - that pretty much ceased to be decades ago...and no
efforts are being taken to change that fact, as you beloved bombs are being
made. the voting public is so incredibly stupid at this point joe, that our
leaders now for the most part occupy themselves with selfish motives and
little else. once again, take a look at this ridiculous paragraph you wrote
below...word for word. and tell me im wrong. and please stop making these
absolute statements and drawing lines in the sand - your words at this point
discourage thought and investigation...they are quite simply, of the
unthinking fanatic sort now...emotional, unquestioning, absolute, unbending,
aggressive, black and white, and full of labels = "anti-american" and all
that crap youre calling everyone that wants to say, 'hmmn, lets give this a
moments thought'. i suppose we shouldve nuked the USSR as well right?
yeah, that sure turned out horrible didnt it? yes, i know they are
different by miles but cant you see what im saying? you have stopped
thinking...or trying to.
drsebby.
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