From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Mon Aug 04 2003 - 16:55:47 MDT
Date sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:06:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Calvin O Ashmore <coa@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: virus: Re:Notice and Proposal of Importance
to all Virians
Send reply to: virus@lucifer.com
The reason that I and several others are pissed off at Hermit is because
he has repeatedly attempted to piss on us (and anyone else who should
dare to disagree with them), and is presently endeavoring to do the
same to the purpose for which this list was originally created.
No whine, just fact.
But you do bring up an interesting point. Let me indulge in an example
to illustrate it.
The anti-Israel people accuse the pro-Israel people of failing to
distinguish between Arabs, Muslims (most Muslims are not Arab) and
militant Wahhabist jihadists, or of covertly attacking all Arabs or all
Muslims when they take issue with the rhetoric or actions of militant
Wahhabist jihadists. The pro-Israel people accuse the anti-Israel
people of failing to distinguish between Jews, Semites (the Palestinians
are Semites, too, and both groups share the genetically based malady
of Tay-Sach's Disease), Israelis (there are many Palestinian Israelies),
and Zionists, and of covertly attacking all Jews when they criticize
Zionism or the state of Israel. Each side accuses the other of pointing
out nonexistent motes of sawdust in the others' eyes whilst missing the
ship's masts on their own. Each accuses the other of racism rather
than opposition to what they perceive as a malignant ideology. There is
plenty of evidence that both sides are both right and wrong to some
degree, but neither side will admit to any error except those they claim
are made by the other side, and members of each side believes, or
claims to believe, that those on the other side are either clueless dupes
or malevolent manipulators. What is the cause of such a radical
disconnect, and more to the point, what can be done about it, so that
the complete truth of the matter can arise from this conflicy of dissonant
perspectives? Or, when faced with extremist 'true believers' of any ilk,
who excuse, ignore or even applaud the mistakes and malevolencies of
their own group while decrying those of the other whether they do in
fact exist or not, is any such decanting possible?
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