RE: virus: The Ideohazard 1.1

From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Sat Sep 27 2003 - 05:59:17 MDT

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     Dear Hermit,

    Here you have posted an article criticizing one of Scruton's books (Not the
    one we are discussing). Is this an invite for me to post full Scruton
    articles or the some pro-Scruton articles?

    Let me know soonest, I have plenty.

    For now let me offer some correctives to the spiteful bunk you have posted,
    but looking at reviews of more relevant books. Keep in mind that even in the
    article you posted it is noted in one quote that "Scruton himself is one of
    Britain's most brilliant philosophers".

    And we were talking about political philosophy.

    The West and the Rest

    The average Amazon review is the full 5 stars!

    From Booklist
    *Starred Review* Last seen riding cheerily to the hunt (On Hunting [BKL S 1
    01]), English philosopher Scruton turns to Islamic terrorism and the war
    against it, illuminating them by contrasting the West and Islam. The West
    has consisted of territorial nations, each defined by language and a legal
    system. Islam, however, is universal (hence, "the rest"--and more), bound
    together by the Arabic of the Koran and Islamic law. The West's religion,
    Christianity, discriminates sacred and secular realms of authority; Islam
    doesn't, regarding secular arrangements as conveniences, at best, and
    ultimately accepting no territorial state. Westerners' loyalties
    historically have been national-territorial; Muslim loyalty is
    nonterritorial--to Islam. The increasingly tolerant and multicultural West
    brims with evil in devout Muslims' eyes, which see Western-style globalism
    as sufficiently terrifying to justify such Muslims as the Ayatollah Khomeini
    and the destroyers of the World Trade Center in taking advantage of Western
    mores to mount reactive strikes against the West. Scruton concludes that
    U.S. retaliation against artificial, Western-created Muslim nations, and
    Israel's against Palestinian Muslims (and, inadvertently, Christians)
    supposedly controlled by Yasir Arafat, wrongly presume that borders and
    politicians control Islam. There is much more meat in Scruton's concentrated
    argument, which concludes not by suggesting how to fight terrorism
    successfully but by urging the West to reexamine its prejudices about
    immigration, multiculturalism, free trade, and religion. Ray Olson
    Copyright C American Library Association. All rights reserved --This text
    refers to the Hardcover edition.

    "While America's political arena is still dominated by those two tiresome
    creatures, the 'liberal' and the 'conservative,' Roger Scruton gives you
    reason to envy the Brits. He's a plain-talking philosopher and writer who
    confounds attempts at categorization. A man of culture and sophistication..
    He's a conservative who is at his best making clear-cut distinctions, yet
    his thinking and language are nuanced and open. He enters enthusiastically
    into discussions on such old-fashioned topics as beauty, goodness and
    religion, yet there's nothing tweedy about his work. He looks on the
    conditions that markets create as warily as the most jaundiced lefty."-Ray
    Sawhill, Salon

    Modern Philosophy: An Introduction and Survey

    Roger Scruton offers a wide-ranging perspective on philosophy, from logic to
    aesthetics, in a lively and engaging way that is sure to stimulate debate.
    Rather than producing a survey of an academic discipline, Scruton reclaims
    philosophy for worldly concerns.
    This extensive survey of topics in modern philosophy as taught in
    English-speaking universities consists of two parts, about 500 and 100
    pages, respectively. The former is the text that presents the ideas, theses,
    and arguments themselves; and the latter is a study guide that elucidates
    details, suggests topics for discussion, and names readings that expand the
    main text. The book is clearly written and well proportioned.

    Modern Philosophy succeeds in inspiring readers to explore the topic
    further, because one senses in Scruton the mark of the true thinker, a deep
    sincerity and conviction' Alain de Botton - Daily Telegraph

    'Scruton is a masterly writer; his book is a paradigm of lucidity' A.C.
    Grayling - Financial Times

    'Anyone interested in philosophy should read this book', Nicholas Bagnall -
    Sunday Telegraph

    A remarkably rich smorgasbord',Oliver Letwin - The Times

    'Invaluable', Frederic Raphael - Sunday Times

    On "A short History of Modern Philosophy"

    From Descartes to Wittgenstein in less than three hundred pages is a
    formidable assignment, especially when ethics, aesthetics, social and
    political philosophy do not pass unnoticed, so that room has to be found for
    Shaftesbury, Butler, and Marx as well as for metaphysicians and
    epistemologists. Scholarly severity in judgement would be out of place from
    a reviewer who has regularly refused to embark upon any such project as far
    too difficult. That Roger Scruton oversimplifies, boldly assumes what
    scholars have seriously questioned, is guilty of sins of omission and
    commission, is sometimes too compressed to be either wholly accurate or
    immediately intelligible - all this can be taken for granted, as inevitable
    from the very nature of his task. Nevertheless, . . . a reader will not
    have wasted his time. Scruton will have introduced him to many interesting
    philosophers in a manner which is often quirky and opinionated but is only
    occasionally boring. It is easy to conceive a better book. It would not be
    so easy to write it.' John Passmore - Times Literary Supplement.

    'The book is useful rather than startling; it is not merely useful, since Dr
    Scruton writes with an unusual clarity and fluency, and is always a pleasure
    to read, and it is a book in which firm judgments are not eschewed....

    This is certainly a book which you could give to anyone who was curious
    about philosophy and expect them to learn a lot from it; and any prospective
    student of philosophy would be very much better off with it than with say,
    Russell's History of Western Philosophy.
    zivotopis
    The homage which Russell paid to the impossibility of his task was to write
    like a gossip columnist; Scruton's is to do it plainly, seriously and
    sensibly, it's less fun, but it's nearer the truth. Alan Ryan, Times Higher
    Educational Supplement.

    That is just 2 books of over 30. I will happily post the rest...

    Regards

    Jonathan

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