RE: virus: Re:"Brights" more destructive than good / WSJ attacks atheism

From: Jake Sapiens (every1hz@earthlink.net)
Date: Mon Oct 13 2003 - 14:52:33 MDT

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    > [Original Message]
    > From: David Lucifer <david@lucifer.com>
    > To: <virus@lucifer.com>
    > Date: 10/13/2003 10:36:55 AM
    > Subject: virus: Re:"Brights" more destructive than good / WSJ attacks
    atheism
    >
    >
    > [Keith] I don't self-identify as a "bright" but I can see their point in
    trying to
    > get away from derogatory labels the way other groups have done.
    >
    > [Lucifer] Just out of curiosity, what are the reasons that the brights
    here do not self-identify with the brights?

    [Jake] I suppose I would be considered a bright. But I would imagine that
    some brights would not self-identify as such, because to be a bright as I
    understand it is not just to hold a particular position about God thingies
    (agnostic/atheist), but to adopt a strategy to deal with the issue in
    relation to the rest of one's life and other issues important. Yes I am an
    atheist, but my way simply isn't the same crusade that Madelyn Murry O'Hare
    signed up for.

    I also think in light of my understanding and acceptance of memetics, that
    the cognitive stickiness of supernatural mythology means to me that a
    certain amount of social adherence to religion will follow as naturally as
    global warming follows from surplus greenhouse gas emissions. In other
    words, I don't really ever start off from the assumption that theists
    believe as they do due to some deficit of mental activity. I think many
    openly self-identified atheists will often implicitly assume this, and some
    perhaps even explicitly. For this reason, I frequently refrain from
    publicly "joining forces" with these kinds of atheists.

    -Jake

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