From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Oct 31 2003 - 15:37:12 MST
....yes indeed, you are correct.  meme's affect us all to varying 
degrees...but in examining my statements and correlating 'feelings' i have 
to seriously pause and wonder who shat in the morning milk first?  a brief 
history of my statement's foundations and then a few clarifying points as to 
the wording of said "anti-ism":
1990:...i was 19yrs old and heading off on my first adventure.  i came from 
the MOST un-biased origins one could possibly imagine...a combination of 
parents entirely free of such filling.  mum was half aztec indian origin, 
father had a thing for latin chicks apparently and is himself very much the 
pinnacle of "judge every man by his actions, attitudes, and person 
independent of family history etc." sounds a bit preachy and cliche, but 
i've never seen any sign of a crack in this personality trait of his - 
direct or subconciously.  my childhood was spent around zero 'minorities' of 
any sort and thus i had a very positive outlook on all those unlike 
myself...perhaps even encouraged by an impression that those unlike myself 
might be worldly and savvy beyond my capacity (i was quite an ignorant 
little cuss in the ways of the world at that point).  so i was very much 
working from a blank slate and eager to have friends when i flew into tokyo. 
  to make a long story short, after many encounters with israelites and 
arabs alike...i even recall thinking that israelis were quite 'cool' and 
savvy and i eagerly sought to make friends with most i encountered due to 
their apparent well-balanced attitudes and wisdom beyond their years...same 
with some arabs i came in contact with (though it was more infrequent to get 
to know them)...anyhow, time after time after time after time i was 
betrayed, fooled, taken advantage of, stolen from, ripped off and so forth.  
at some point i started expecting this sort of thing once i began to link 
their fierce nationalism and religious devotion and exclusionary attitudes 
to the individuals whom had betrayed me in numerous ways.  once i found that 
their reason and even-handedness ended when "their peoples" histories came 
to issue, i found it very natural to safely assume my past experiences would 
be repeated.  i investigated through conversation and debate and encountered 
the same.  at some point, it just became mathematically unrealistic to 
expect or look for the extremely rare exceptions.  so at this point if 
someone goes out of their way to identify themselves as one of some 
ideological group, i just stay away from them.  whatever their reasons are, 
they dont mean much to me since i had never wronged them, or in any way 
represented something against them...i merely felt the brunt of their 
self-centeredness and group mentality.  i like individuals and 
individualism...therefore i actively avoid such self-declaring group 
members.  this is essentially anti-semitism.  if you were to begin every 
post with "well, being an arab/jew...." i would likely place such 
assumptions upon you as well.  as is, you havent exhibited any such traits 
now long enough to assume you are very much more an individual than part of 
any group.  i'll cut this short in hopes that you read the whole thing now.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Erik Aronesty" <erik@zoneedit.com>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: Jewish Controlled Media & Leaders Misrepresent Malaysian 
PM
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:43:58 -0400
Dear Dr. Sebby,
Is it possible that it is merely the "memes" that have infected certain 
regions in the Middle East that cause you to view semetic people so 
distastefully?
And, if so, why bother using such innacurate labels which imply that 
complexion and genetic predisposition are somehow responsible for this 
behavior?
Finally, guess whether I am semetic or not - by looking at the history of my 
posts.
Please determine for yourself as to whether I am a person who engages in 
rational discourse.
(Insert picture of me waving my hands in the air and spinning around in 
circles)
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