RE: virus:Bush, Napoleon And The Crusades

From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Mon May 17 2004 - 17:26:06 MDT

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    Fergusson was talking about roughly 1880 to 1956. I will post the relevant
    section from his book "Colossus" as soon as I get some time. Money point:
    Nation building demands a very long commitment, not 2-4 years as expected by
    US administrations past and present. Egypt shared many similarities with
    Iraq, as did the contemporary political landscape of its initial involvement
    in Egypt.

    More later (probably in the morning).

    Regards

    Jonathan

     

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    [Blunderov]
    An historical perspective.
    Best Regards
    <q>
    Bush, Napoleon And The Crusades
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/17/opinion/fenton/main617712.shtml

    <snip>

    Huntington is convinced that the war in Iraq was a bad idea. Before it
    began, he predicted it would be two wars. The war against Saddam Hussein and
    his army would be quickly won, but the war against the Iraqi people, which
    is now taking an increasing toll of American lives, the United States "will
    never win."

    [Jonathan Davis]
    Thanks for this B. Interesting, but this analysis misses the most obvious
    example - The British in Egypt - and one of the best historians, Niall
    Fergusson.

    [rhinoceros]
    Excuse my ignorance, Jonathan, but looking at Egypt today and in the last 50
    years, I wonder what Fergusson's claim was.

    I'll take it that you were not making an argument for Egypt's occupation
    itself, but only for the feasibility of subdueing peoples. 

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