RE: virus: The Rumsfeld wriggle.

From: rhinoceros (rhinoceros@freemail.gr)
Date: Sun May 23 2004 - 11:28:03 MDT

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    [Mermaid] dont worry! Rumsfield has saved the day!

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1114150.htm

    Rumsfeld bans camera phones in Iraq: report
    Mobile phones fitted with digital cameras have been banned in United States Army installations in Iraq on orders from Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, The Business newspaper reported on Sunday.

    [rhinoceros] Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil...

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    By the way, I found this piece (it first appeared in the Washington Post).

    Time to Stop 'Stress and Duress'
    http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2004/05/13/usint8578.htm

    <begin quote>
    The Defense Department has adopted a 72-point "matrix" of types of stress to which detainees can be subjected. These include stripping detainees naked, depriving them of sleep, subjecting them to bright lights or blaring noise, hooding them, exposing them to heat and cold, and binding them in uncomfortable positions. The more stressful techniques must be approved by senior commanders, but all are permitted. And nearly all are being used, according to testimony taken by Human Rights Watch from post-Sept. 11 detainees released from U.S. custody.

    None of these techniques is legal. Treaties ratified by the United States, including the Geneva Conventions and the U.N. Convention Against Torture, prohibit not only torture but also "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment." In ratifying the Convention Against Torture, the U.S. government interpreted this provision to prohibit the same practices as those proscribed by the U.S. Constitution. The Bush administration reiterated that understanding last June.

    <snip>

    But can't torture at least be used on someone who might know of an imminent terrorist act? Not without opening the door to pervasive torture. The problem with this "ticking bomb" scenario is that it is infinitely elastic. Why stop with the terrorist suspect himself? Why not torture his neighbor or friend who might know something about an attack? And why stop with an imminent attack? Aren't the potential victims of possible future attacks just as worthy of protection by torture? The slope is very slippery.
    <end quote>

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