From: Jei (jei@cc.hut.fi)
Date: Fri May 07 2004 - 06:47:23 MDT
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Joe Dees wrote:
> The US is definitely not on the same level of depravity as those it has
> recently faced in battle, Jei (although it has to be that way for you,
> because you so much WAAAANT it that way).
Joe, that is a matter of definition of depravity and opinion.
And since when have you become such an expert in what I want?
It seems to me that it is you, Americans, who are like rabid believers,
actively ignoring and explaining away all the facts that contradict your
belief in the Almighty America the Righteous Nation, instead of looking
at the facts on the ground of what you are doing.
Amnesty International has plenty of reports, but I don't suppose
any of you even bother to follow them, since they've been plenty
critical of America's conduct as well.
> And the US is busily assisting the Iraqis in crafting a true
> independence that the citizenry can enjoy and that the country can hold
> on to.
That is what you may believe, indeed it is what your TV is saying 24/7,
but is that really your governments' real and ultimate goal, the driving
force behind the decition to go to War?
I think the ultimate goal was stated in the PNAC documents, and that is
to gain control over oil and strategic oil producing region. - Nobody
goes to war for any other reason than profit.
People certainly don't go around making democracies and bashing
dictators out of the goodness of their hearts. Indeed, US has a
consistent habit of destroying democracies that don't suite their
tastes, such as in Iran, and the more recent attempt to overthrow
the government & president in Venezuela. There's PLENTY of examples
to go around of this.
> If the US cuts and runs rather than sticking it out, Iraq would
> probably follow the same path that Afghanistan did after the soviet
> pullout.
It didn't do that bad, until you bombed their mud-huts back to stone age.
Well, at least the US seems to have gotten Afghanistan's opium production
back to record levels, after the Taleban had eliminated from the country
near totally. Good work, I guess we will see opium production take root in
Iraq as well.
> This would be a danger to both its own people and to those of
> other nations, but would most likely delight Jei, as anything that might
> cause the US or its people pain or discomfort seems to delight him so.
Don't put words in my mouth Joe. I don't wish bad to anybody in this
world. The fact is that I can see the real motives behind PR-talk,
while you choose to ignore the reality and prefer to stick to the rosy
fantasies of your government's PR-agency.
You are living in a dark hole, Joe. You may choose to dig yourself deeper,
but the ugly reality is still there. I really pity you Joe, 48 years old,
and you're still incapable of thinking outside of your little box.
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