From: Hermit (hidden@lucifer.com)
Date: Wed Aug 14 2002 - 18:10:33 MDT
[Hermit 1] In contravention of the Convention to Prevent Genocide, the United States took and is taking deliberate action designed to cause and disseminate lethal pathologies in Iraq in the anticipation that this would eventually lead to revolution. Instead about 1 million of the children of Iraq have died of these diseases.
[Joe Dees 2] You sound like we are passing out the smallpox blankets; pure unadulterated Bullus Shittus of the rankest Hermitian grade.
[Hermit 3] I note you don't read links. Google Search Term "bomb iraq water cholera nagy"
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/7891/index_iraq.html <- Superb, a lot of excellent links
[Hermit 3] I have previously posted the links to the DOD sites which contain the referenced declassified documents which show intent. I think the onus is now on you to do what you have not yet attempted and show why your assertion that this is "Bullus Shittus" is not just an angry wail of denial.
[Hermit 3] Here is a sample document providing all the required data. Respond to it.
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[Joe Dees 4] We did degrade their water supplies, but we didn't actively infect the people (as the analogy to passing out smallpox blankets would have indicated), although we did, and had good reason to, suspect that nature would do that for us, in the absence of the good sense by the Iraqi population to boil their drinking water prior to consuming it. I wonder if Saddam Hussein even tried to tell his people to boil their drinking water, and if not, if he refused to do so because he was all too willing to have some of them die in order to exploit a propaganda point. I wish the US had not taken this action, but instead had had the good sense to finish the job of ousting Saddam during the Gulf War. We need to finish it now, for everyone's benefit; ours, the neigboring countries in the region, and the population of Iraq.
[Hermit 5] When an environment contains sufficient vectors it is almost impossible to prevent infection. That was why the US expected this result. In any case, as the US predicted, most Iraqi have difficulty obtaining water at all. In addition, again as predicted, they don't have the ability to boil their water as the electricity infrastructure was also destroyed (read the US reports). Iraq was an industrialized electrified society, so no, most Iraqis don't have fuel powered stoves that could use fuel if they could get it. Their infrastructure was so badly damaged that making new stoves is not a reality and even if they could, most Iraqi couldn't buy them. Most Iraqi are broke or close to it.
[Hermit 5] So:The internal documents show that the US was fully aware of the probable consequences
The internal documents show that the US took the illegal actions of destroying civilian infrastructure any way.
The internal documents show that the US deliberately prevented a solution to the subsequent disaster.
The external documents show that the result has been the death of over a million children.
[Hermit 5] Joe Dees raised a strawman and then tried to say that they US didn't create the diseases, so the deaths from them are not the US' responsibility even though the US planned for this result, and implemented those plans.
[Hermit 5] I would suggest that far from disproving "In contravention of the Convention to Prevent Genocide, the United States took and is taking deliberate action designed to cause and disseminate lethal pathologies in Iraq in the anticipation that this would eventually lead to revolution. Instead about 1 million of the children of Iraq have died of these diseases." the only reasonable conclusion is that my assertion was well founded and that it is Joe Dees who is speaking "pure unadulterated Bullus Shittus of the rankest Deesian grade."
[Hermit 5] In conclusion, Joe Dees' additional assertion that "We need to finish [finish the job of ousting Saddam] now, for everyone's benefit; ours, the neigboring countries in the region, and the population of Iraq" is as spurious, unfounded and self interested a delusion as ever raged, and I challenge Joe Dees to attempt to support it with particular reference to the Kurds and neighbors of Iraq. He need not support the US interest. That is self-evident.
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