From: David McFadzean (david@lucifer.com)
Date: Thu Aug 15 2002 - 13:48:07 MDT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Davis" <jonathan@limbicnutrition.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:01 PM
> He appears to have taken nearly full control of this list and the Church's
> BBS.
On the list, Hermit has no more control than anyone else other than me. On
the BBS, Hermit is a "global moderator" which allows him to delete and
modify posts, and move topics to different boards. As far as I know (correct
me if I'm wrong), he has used these powers only to reformat messages to make
them more readable, and to move topics to more appropriate boards.
> There appears to be an cabal Hermit refers to as 'the elect', and he
> sees himself as the pope of this particular hierarchy, operating with
> impunity within the list and the BBS.
There may be some groups working offlist to direct the CoV (the more the
merrier, I say), but no one has been elected.
> I refuse to be subjected to the sometimes malicious whims of a new clergy,
> especially in what is supposed to be a rational church.
I fully agree with this sentiment.
> For these reasons, please can you clarify Hermit's official role in our
> church? Was he elected leader/boss/pope? Does he have the right to
> redirect/block mail and kick whomever he likes off IRC (even OPs like me)?
> What rules, if any, is he operating under in his official capacity? The
CoV
> is becoming Hermit's personal fiefdom. This should be profoundly worrying
> for you.
Hermit has two "official" roles, global moderator on the BBS and IRCop on
IRC. These were granted because Hermit has the time, knowledge and
inclination. Hermit (and only Hermit so far) has volunteered for these
positions.
On IRC he has quite a bit of power, and there are no rules in effect other
than "don't piss off the ops". It is kind of a wild west right now. I think
there should be rules and I welcome any efforts in that direction. I will do
my best to participate in the formation of the rules of conduct, and to
implement them when we agree on a set. I would particularly like to develop
the rules in a game of nomic because I see that as the optimal solution
between authoritarian and democratic extremes.
> Please let me know the answers to my questions above. I need to take a
> serious decision about whether I want to be involved with the CoV with an
> unrestrained, unaccountable, at times unfair and occasionally bullying
> person at the 'controls'?
I'm very happy that you brought this up publically rather than voting with
your feet. I'm sympathetic to the former members that chose the latter
route, but unfortunately it doesn't help fix any problems we're having.
Cheers,
David
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