From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Fri Aug 16 2002 - 04:20:39 MDT
Dear David,
Thank you for your as ever excellent reply. I am greatly reassured by what
you have said. I will be in touch to see if I can be of any assistance in
creating a Varian charter for the list and BBS. I would also like to
formally volunteer to help you with any IRC or list roles that you might
need help with.
Kind regards
Jonathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McFadzean" <david@lucifer.com>
To: <virus@lucifer.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: virus: Impeaching Hermit or Who the funk made you boss?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Davis" <jonathan@limbicnutrition.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:01 PM
>
> > He appears to have taken nearly full control of this list and the
Church's
> > BBS.
>
> On the list, Hermit has no more control than anyone else other than me. On
> the BBS, Hermit is a "global moderator" which allows him to delete and
> modify posts, and move topics to different boards. As far as I know
(correct
> me if I'm wrong), he has used these powers only to reformat messages to
make
> them more readable, and to move topics to more appropriate boards.
>
> > There appears to be an cabal Hermit refers to as 'the elect', and he
> > sees himself as the pope of this particular hierarchy, operating with
> > impunity within the list and the BBS.
>
> There may be some groups working offlist to direct the CoV (the more the
> merrier, I say), but no one has been elected.
>
> > I refuse to be subjected to the sometimes malicious whims of a new
clergy,
> > especially in what is supposed to be a rational church.
>
> I fully agree with this sentiment.
>
> > For these reasons, please can you clarify Hermit's official role in our
> > church? Was he elected leader/boss/pope? Does he have the right to
> > redirect/block mail and kick whomever he likes off IRC (even OPs like
me)?
> > What rules, if any, is he operating under in his official capacity? The
> CoV
> > is becoming Hermit's personal fiefdom. This should be profoundly
worrying
> > for you.
>
> Hermit has two "official" roles, global moderator on the BBS and IRCop on
> IRC. These were granted because Hermit has the time, knowledge and
> inclination. Hermit (and only Hermit so far) has volunteered for these
> positions.
>
> On IRC he has quite a bit of power, and there are no rules in effect other
> than "don't piss off the ops". It is kind of a wild west right now. I
think
> there should be rules and I welcome any efforts in that direction. I will
do
> my best to participate in the formation of the rules of conduct, and to
> implement them when we agree on a set. I would particularly like to
develop
> the rules in a game of nomic because I see that as the optimal solution
> between authoritarian and democratic extremes.
>
> > Please let me know the answers to my questions above. I need to take a
> > serious decision about whether I want to be involved with the CoV with
an
> > unrestrained, unaccountable, at times unfair and occasionally bullying
> > person at the 'controls'?
>
> I'm very happy that you brought this up publically rather than voting with
> your feet. I'm sympathetic to the former members that chose the latter
> route, but unfortunately it doesn't help fix any problems we're having.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
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