From: Walter Watts (wlwatts@cox.net)
Date: Sun Sep 22 2002 - 14:51:52 MDT
Calvin,
I haven't walked away. I just realized that anything I post will subserve to the
"GREAT POLITICO" that for some fucking exaptatious memetic reason has driven our
little fitness landscape of late.
As the list returns to engaging discourse and discovery, on VARIED topics, which
could very well include our OWN recent historical memetic dissection, my
involvement will proportionately increase.
Your post, and the underlying care you obviously have for CoV, give me hope that
CoV will return to its previous status as a sanctuary away from the irrational
masses.
Thanks, friend.
Walter
Calvin Ashmore wrote:
> Normally I'm not a poster, but I feel like I need to say something...
>
> I used to reccomend Virus as an intellectual discussion group which was
> insightful, engaging, and very brilliant. I realized yesterday, I was about
> to refer someone to the list and then thought better of it.
>
> This mailing list has become childish, venomous, and pitiable. It is a sad
> sight to see when great arguers and posters lower themselves to insult each
> other with such rage and hostility. This isn't the fault of one of Hermit or
> Joe, this is become absurd by the encouragement of both of you. What's worse
> is how you blame the degredation of the list on each other, both launch into
> attacks on each other's character, and no matter what direction the list
> starts to veer by anyone else's hand, it continues to be brought back to
> politics.
>
> I in no way am saying that US politics and foreign policy and stance towards
> Iraq is not important. But for the list now, what good has the discussion of
> it accomplished? Have any of the posts made, and challenges of theories
> actually resulted in anything positive? Each vantage point has such weight
> and passion invested into it, that it is frightful. Both sides defend
> themselves and attack each other, and never budge. The memetic resolve here
> remains unshaken.
>
> That saddens me, and I see no way around it, so I propose to leave it alone.
> No one has convinced anyone else on this of anything insightful in months.
>
> The bullshit I've been reading through this time has been absurd. No one of
> you can excuse yourself though any means, I've lost a great deal of respect
> for this list, and the only way for it to come back is to move on.
>
> The other great posters have vanished... Where have Zloduska, Walter, Casey,
> Bill and others gone? Thank you Sebby for staying here...
> And I don't care who blocked who in the past, as I understand it, all bans
> seem to have been removed now...
>
> Please someone post something about the NewScientist competition, or about
> the antigravity propulsion thread from a couple of days ago, or something
> worthwhile hearing about...
>
> I miss the list as I remember it.
> And if this post is followed up by another series of political garbage, or
> another slew of venomous attacks from *anyone's* hand, I'm going be just
> another one who walked away.
>
> Thank you.
>
> ---
> Calvin Ashmore
> http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~coa
> "Don't worry, the worst is yet to come!"
-- Walter Watts Tulsa Network Solutions, Inc. "No one gets to see the Wizard! Not nobody! Not no how!"
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