From: Joe Dees (hidden@lucifer.com)
Date: Thu May 06 2004 - 12:29:33 MDT
Juuko:
My sources are global. Their perspectives trend from conservative to liberal to libertarian. And if you think that simply being an American disqualifies a person from having a valid perspective, than that says more about you than it does Americans.
Existentialism lesson: NO sources are objective, since they are authored by subjects, not objects. However, intersubjective consensus may be reached to various degrees of confidence.
I am 48 and thus will not be drafted, but I am a military vet (visions of Jei crouching in fear and slowly backing away whilst making the sign of the cross and reaching for the garlic).
Americans did NOT do what Hitler did. What terminally relativistic moral equivocation! To even assert such a thing is to reveal yourself to be suffering severe reality disconnection difficulties, probably brought on by a severe infestation of the Bush = Hitler meme. Believe you me - from what we know of European history, Adolph was not invading all those countries in order to topple despots and nurture constitutional democracies, then leave. Show me the US concentration camps and gas ovens; then we'll talk. The overwhelming majority of Iraqis killed by US forces have been armed non-Iraqi militants or members and former members of Saddam's army, the army that massacred hundreds of thousands of Shi'ites and Kurds at Saddam's bidding (we're still discovering mass graves). All told, Saddam has been responsible for two million Iraqi and foreign deaths, ranking him even with Pol Pot and behind only Hitler, Stalin and Mao in the mass murderer sweepstakes.
BTW: as far as the "dance and shit" remark: fuck you very much. Considering how dark and damp it must be in that slimy hole of vicious knee-jerk anti-american dogmatism you mentally inhabit under a flat rock of undeserved snide and supercilious self-righteousness, it is the most hilarious of ironies for you to be claiming to possess sagacious enlightenment on this issue.
And OF COURSE the US has troops there; they were required inorder to topple Saddam, and they are required to provide security for the genesis of a constitutional democracy in Iraq that the totalitarian despots in neighboring Iran and Syria dearly desire to strangle at birth. The US will stay until the Iraqis can civilly and non-chaotically handle their own affairs; then they'll most gladly relinquish power and draw down the troops - just like in Germany and Japan.
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