RE: virus: War & Peace / Rethinking Iraq

From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Thu May 06 2004 - 13:16:38 MDT

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    The photos of the original abuse unleashed memes leading to a blizzard of
    claims, rumours and assorted bunk.

    I am heading to the Moral Panic shelter to wait for the crocodile tear flood
    to pass.

     I don’t believe the old goat (probably with her eye on the lucrative and
    easy to fleece British courts with their fat free-for-all compensation
    teat).

    Ms Clwyd is probably caught up the hysteria too and unreliable. For
    reference, here is the lady in print:

    "Iraq now has a chance for a better future. In less than a hundred days,
    sovereignty will be handed over to a new Iraqi government. The interim
    constitution shows what Iraq can become, a nation with a bill of rights and
    provisions on freedom of speech and assembly. Already a vibrant civil
    society is emerging from the decades of war and dictatorship. The Marsh
    Arabs are returning to their habitat; the Shia can celebrate their religious
    holidays; Kurds are no longer being expelled from Mosul and Kirkuk. And
    those who committed these crimes are now awaiting trial - Saddam Hussein
    himself is to be defended by the French lawyer, Jacques Vergès.

    As Ali Haidari, the leader of the Baghdad city council, told me earlier this
    month: "If I had met you a year ago, all I could have said was: 'Hello. Long
    live the president. Goodbye.' Now I am free to speak."

    Ann Clwyd MP is special envoy to the prime minister on human rights in Iraq.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1180746,00.html

    Regards

    Jonathan

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    Guide: How to Treat Elderly Women - by US Troops

    // Jei

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6149.htm

    U.S. Troops Mistreat Elder Iraqi woman

    By SUE LEEMAN, Associated Press Writer

    Wed May 5, 2004: LONDON - U.S. soldiers who detained an elderly Iraqi woman
    last year placed a harness on her, made her crawl on all fours and rode her
    like a donkey, Prime Minister Tony Blair 's personal human rights envoy to
    Iraq said Wednesday.

    The envoy, legislator Ann Clwyd, said she had investigated the claims of the
    woman in her 70s and believed they were true.

    During five visits to Iraq in the last 18 months, Clwyd said, she stopped at
    British and U.S. jails, including Abu Ghraib, and questioned everyone she
    could about the woman's claims. But she did not say whether the people
    questioned included U.S. forces or commanders.

    Asked for details, Clwyd said during a telephone interview with The
    Associated Press that she "didn't want to harp on the case because as far as
    I'm concerned it's been resolved."

    Clwyd, 67, is a veteran politician of the governing Labour Party and a
    strong Blair supporter who regularly visits Iraq and reports back on issues
    such as human rights, the delivery of food and medical supplies to Iraqis,
    and Iraq's Kurdish minority. Her job as Blair's human rights envoy is unpaid
    and advisory.

    Clwyd said the Iraqi woman was arrested in Iraq in July and accused of
    having links to a former member of Saddam Hussein's regime a charge she
    denied.

    The abuse occurred last year in Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison and at another
    coalition detention center, Clwyd said.

    "She was held for about six weeks without charge," the envoy told
    Wednesday's Evening Standard newspaper. "During that time she was insulted
    and told she was a donkey. A harness was put on her, and an American rode on
    her back."

    Clwyd said the woman has recovered physically but remains traumatized.

    "I am satisfied the case has now been resolved satisfactorily," the envoy
    told British Broadcasting Corp. radio Wednesday. "She got a visit last week
    from the authorities, and she is about to have her papers and jewelry
    returned to her."

    Clwyd said she had been told about the case because the woman has relatives
    in Britain.

    Clwyd, who said the woman did not want to be named, did not identify the
    American military unit involved.

    Blair's office said Wednesday the envoy had not delivered her report to the
    prime minister yet so, therefore, it could not immediately confirm her
    reported findings.

    © 2004 AP

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