From: Hermit (hidden@lucifer.com)
Date: Fri Aug 02 2002 - 15:46:52 MDT
[Joe Dees 4] Tu quoque. You are doing exactly that, no matter how
vehemently you deny it; your sources themselves share your biases, and that is my point. Ther is only one root estimate to which you are referring, by amnesty international, and a whole bunch of cross-post copycats of it.
[Hermit 5] I am with Mr Jenkins (infra). This is indeed becoming surreal. First you assert that individual deaths can be accounted for. When I ask for your list - or at least its source, you assert that all of the following sources - including eye-witnesses - derived their information from Amnesty International. Count them:H.J. Chien Pakistan Observer The Guardian Times of India CommonDreams Los Angeles Times The Boston Globe The Washington Post The Independent workingforchange.com The Frontier Post [Peshawar] BBC News Online Agence France Press Dawn [Hermit 5] Fourteen sources providing cross confirmation. Now seeing as you claim to be providing "facts", please provide the source that indicates that all of these sources obtained their figures from Amnesty International, or I will suspect that you are again citing your oipinion as "fact." Perhaps worth observing the source of those figures.Democracy Now! is a national, listener-sponsored public radio and TV show, pioneering the largest community media collab
oration in the country. The program was launched six years ago as the only daily election show in public broadcasting. Because of its success, Democracy Now! broadened its focus and became a national news show committed to bringing the voices of the marginalized to the airwaves on issues ranging from the global to the local.
[Joe Dees 6] So there IS a single source for them all, with an admitted political bias, and you just named it.
[Hermit 7] Forgotten how to read as well as how to think? Notice that the study, which I obtained from democracy now, is an independent multi sourced meta analysis, which refered to the 14 sources I mentioned just to calculate the death toll over the 4 days in which you asserted that "only ten deaths" had occured. Not a "single source".
[Hermit 7] I still challenge you to prove the "fact" you asserted earlier, that supposedly indicates that all of these sources obtained their figures from Amnesty International... From the lack of response and the wriggling, I'm assuming you can't do it.
Hermit
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